Comments on: Feeds – A Threat to Design? http://www.mayvelous.com/2006/11/03/feeds-a-threat-to-design/ Me, Myself and Mayvelous Tue, 17 Jan 2012 06:37:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: May http://www.mayvelous.com/2006/11/03/feeds-a-threat-to-design/comment-page-1/#comment-2038 May Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:45:38 +0000 http://www.mayvelous.com/?p=239#comment-2038 @Preetam Rai, Yes, I guess you are right in saying it might be impolite to a guest esp for those who subscribe hundreds of feeds like you guys. Well, I'll think of a way to publish both feed. @Strange Pants, Oh yes, even in friendlybit article, i read about the possibility of formatted designed content to go in the feed readers in future. Yes, that's gonna be very interesting if you can read the whole content design bit from the feed reader. I'm waiting for the day. :) The thing about full feed is that, I got full feeds from lots of sites and I'm enjoying it but then I lost track of the whole site appearance and sometimes forgot who/how the author is. Also I miss out lots of other very good resources like asides links, icons, layout effects, etc. I guess not all people are same like me who like checking out everything, so they need not know those and sure to prefer full feed. You know I hate that part "user/client/visitors is always right" haha. I hear that all the time and getting so annoying. :P Why can't the developers be right sometimes too? So unfair man. Thanks guys good thoughts and discussion. @Preetam Rai,
Yes, I guess you are right in saying it might be impolite to a guest esp for those who subscribe hundreds of feeds like you guys. Well, I’ll think of a way to publish both feed.

@Strange Pants,
Oh yes, even in friendlybit article, i read about the possibility of formatted designed content to go in the feed readers in future. Yes, that’s gonna be very interesting if you can read the whole content design bit from the feed reader. I’m waiting for the day. :)

The thing about full feed is that, I got full feeds from lots of sites and I’m enjoying it but then I lost track of the whole site appearance and sometimes forgot who/how the author is. Also I miss out lots of other very good resources like asides links, icons, layout effects, etc. I guess not all people are same like me who like checking out everything, so they need not know those and sure to prefer full feed.

You know I hate that part “user/client/visitors is always right” haha. I hear that all the time and getting so annoying. :P Why can’t the developers be right sometimes too? So unfair man.

Thanks guys good thoughts and discussion.

]]> By: Strange Pants http://www.mayvelous.com/2006/11/03/feeds-a-threat-to-design/comment-page-1/#comment-2035 Strange Pants Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:47:41 +0000 http://www.mayvelous.com/?p=239#comment-2035 An interesting discussion, with no right or wrong side. There are a couple of things to be said for feeds: Feeds shift the emphasis back to good content ... which is what makes or breaks a site. Design is good, but at the end of the day, it's about content. Design informs the content, helps clarify it's message and brands the owner(s) of the content, but it can do nothing to improve poor content! Feeds offer your visitors/subscribers the freedom to get updates, and in the case of full-text feeds, content whenever and however they want. If you believe that the 'user/client/visitor is always right' then you allow them the freedom to read your excellent content in a manner that fits into their schedule. That said, full-text feeds can a be a little scary: the idea that someone can read your content without referring to your site breaks the current monetisation models for sites ... which means it's time for a change. The web has always been a fluid medium with people experimenting, inventing new delivery mechanisms, and just occasionally something comes along that changes the way we all work. Perhaps the days of going to a web site will pass, and the feed model of getting from a web site will take over. An interesting discussion, with no right or wrong side.

There are a couple of things to be said for feeds:

Feeds shift the emphasis back to good content … which is what makes or breaks a site. Design is good, but at the end of the day, it’s about content. Design informs the content, helps clarify it’s message and brands the owner(s) of the content, but it can do nothing to improve poor content!

Feeds offer your visitors/subscribers the freedom to get updates, and in the case of full-text feeds, content whenever and however they want. If you believe that the ‘user/client/visitor is always right’ then you allow them the freedom to read your excellent content in a manner that fits into their schedule.

That said, full-text feeds can a be a little scary: the idea that someone can read your content without referring to your site breaks the current monetisation models for sites … which means it’s time for a change. The web has always been a fluid medium with people experimenting, inventing new delivery mechanisms, and just occasionally something comes along that changes the way we all work. Perhaps the days of going to a web site will pass, and the feed model of getting from a web site will take over.

]]> By: Preetam Rai http://www.mayvelous.com/2006/11/03/feeds-a-threat-to-design/comment-page-1/#comment-2023 Preetam Rai Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:57:57 +0000 http://www.mayvelous.com/?p=239#comment-2023 I would prefer if the author provides several options for the feed. Full, Partial, comments etc. I would even say that providing partial feed is like being impolite to a guest - guys who subscribe you on a RSS reader are doing so because they already have several sites to visit and probably they don't care about the site interface too much so showing them partial feed does no good. Here is an experimental vindication of this http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2006/10/why-you-should-provide-full-feeds.html As for the identity bit, I think the web as we see it today with the design elements etc is only aspect, people care more for the information. As newer mediums like Second Life emerge we will have to come up with vastly different interface objects and the emphasis will change from a 2-D design to 3-D. I would prefer if the author provides several options for the feed. Full, Partial, comments etc. I would even say that providing partial feed is like being impolite to a guest – guys who subscribe you on a RSS reader are doing so because they already have several sites to visit and probably they don’t care about the site interface too much so showing them partial feed does no good. Here is an experimental vindication of this
http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2006/10/why-you-should-provide-full-feeds.html

As for the identity bit, I think the web as we see it today with the design elements etc is only aspect, people care more for the information. As newer mediums like Second Life emerge we will have to come up with vastly different interface objects and the emphasis will change from a 2-D design to 3-D.

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